Yes - analysis and categorisation can be applied to most everything.
There is being ‘lost in thought’ which is as I see it, thinking without an awareness, without a watching of the thoughts themselves as they arise? Is there a preference for the ‘watching’ state over the other more usual one? Why? Something to be gained? Is it a ‘method’ to achieve something? Or is it like watching the turkey buzzard flying toward me adjusting to the wind currents or the solitary gull fishing? Is it that this ‘ability’ to follow my thoughts is as natural as watching the birds ‘do what they do’?
But has gone undiscovered?
Can a destructive, ‘hateful’, ‘bigoted’ thought be seen in myself without judgement, without condemnation? As if looking at a tree or a bird? Is that possible? Or would ‘identification’ with such thoughts preclude a nonjudgmental awareness of them?
What happens when such thoughts are seen clearly? Is there automatic action in the seeing?
An interesting image came to me with all this: that the human brain / mind is ‘sacred’. It is ‘profaned’ by thought, the noise of thought which is the past. The mind is ‘silence’, thought has no place there. In Christian imagery it is the money changers in the temple.
“Everyone is overridden by thoughts; that’s why they have so much heartache and sorrow.”
Rumi
"Everyone is overridden by thoughts…but not me!
Rheumy
“Be thankful not for the friend’s tenderness but for his tyranny
So the arrogant beauty in you
Can become a lover that weeps.”
Rumi
What is the purpose, or function of the brain? If say the purpose of the liver is filtration and production of bile.
If you were to put this in your own words (without being poetic) what would you say?
You’re a big arrogant phony and be thankful when someone calls you out for it.
(Even when the source is another big arrogant phony!)
That’s an easy one: to resonate with the universal Mind. It’s a delicate instrument whose potential can’t be measured. Some will be more ‘sensitive’ due to the reasons I mentioned. This for me is what K’s “radical transformation is about. The brain being freed.
Do you believe in “the universal Mind”? If you know it’s real, why are you here with the rest of us who are confined to our self-centered brains?
First off I don’t have to tell you why I’m here. I flagged your post to Paul because it was personal and inappropriate. It reeked of petty-minded self righteous zealotry. And in K’s name!
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You don’t see how he’s trivializing K’s teaching?
I think we’re primarily reacting to personalities and perceived attitudes - also when someone does not fit our image of the perfect being, we react to that (we are very odd really).
And anyway, who appointed me “protector of the faith”?
The human brain is indeed something very special, a unique thing in the universe. It seems to have infinite potential. We use only a very small portion of it. So in many ways, yes, it is sacred.
However, the second part, I am not so sure about. That thought profanes it. Thought has such a bad rap in K circles. But without thought, none of us would be able to inquire or even understand Krishnamurti. Thought has its right place.
You can’t know this can you ? The brain and the problems that we see that have arisen from it may be solely an Earth phenomena. A product of evolution here. Where ‘thought’ has taken it in a perverted functioning is the profanity I’m suggesting. The image of a self, the psychological fear of death I.e.
Wouldn’t we say that the brain has evolved in part to use thought (which is why, for instance, the neo-cortex was so significant a development of the hominid brain), but that this is not the whole of the significance of the brain?
The wider significance of the brain may be that - under certain circumstances (i.e. when thought is silent or no longer dominant) - it can make contact with universal mind.
Thought will still operate in its own place - as K said, the brain as thought has its own rhythm - but it has no place in universal mind.
Remember, a temple is only sacred when there is actually something sacred, otherwise it is only a temple. Similarly the brain can only be said to be itself sacred* when the universal mind is operating in it or through it.
K sometimes said “You’ve only got one brain, use it wisely”.
*Although every living thing, including the brain, has its own sacredness even if it is not immediately the space for contact with universal mind (i.e. our brains as they are ordinarily, even when dominated by thought). Perhaps because all living things are potentially the space for universal mind to act through?