Sex, Lust and Freedom

@DanMcD @sree

Hi there. I have a question on your replies.

Not only till mid-twenties - I have seen many persons who are in 60s driven by attraction.

In the original post - i quoted these K’s observations.

In this - the craving before and after is called as ‘lust’ which is a form of ‘thought’.

When we are alone or when we see a woman in-person/in-ad. - thoughts in form of lust - urges us to ‘have sex’ or ‘watch porn’ - had you ever felt that? - Had you observed why it happens?

It may be nature or for no reason - we don’t know. But couldn’t we see how it ruins our actual relationship with people/nature?

And what do you mean by ‘controlling to acceptable level’? - Only for reproduction and not more than that?

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‘You’ are not in control of the body. You don’t exist. The body will do what it does. It may rape, it may kill. It may destroy itself. There is no controller. Only the ‘conditioning’. But that can all be overcome with Intelligence. The body wants what it is programmed to want. Suppression is a mistake. Indulgence is a mistake, Observe the process and how it goes.

That’s it.

When we observe carefully about this ‘lust’ - we can be aware of everything - and there is no need of ‘self-control’ and however vital it is - we will be choice-lessly aware of the sensual urge - and we won’t be driven by it.

IF we are choice-lessly aware - we don’t ‘have to watch porn’ or ‘masturbate’ or approach a woman to make her gf or go for a club,etc…

Can you see that?

Suppression feeds it. I remember when I lived in Spain, a Spanish friend told me about a priest who every night would stand alone in the window of his monastery, naked, exposing himself to anyone walking along the street below. Sex is powerful as well as beautiful. Enjoy it.

But it’s limited.

And i can see/feel there is more than this limited beauty - and careful,serious observation is needed to ‘see the whole movement of ‘I’’ to be aware of all this limited things. :slightly_smiling_face: :innocent:

But remember that it is in charge, not ‘you’.

Sorry i couldn’t understand. ‘It’ means?

The Body. What ‘you’ and ‘I’ think we own.

'body’ is in charge?

Sorry “i’m aware when it comes in charge”

I think i own for more than 10 years - but i see that i was controlling it and it didn’t work out.

But now, everytime it arises - i’m aware of all it’s effects,etc… and ‘no control’ - and the urge dies.

Why so anti sex?..

:smile: :grin: Because ‘sex’ urge stops seeing the beauty of nature/women/everything - the ‘now’

No it doesn’t. Sex is beautiful. All creatures agree!

They agree because - they can see/feel only this beauty and not the ‘other’.

So if you feel/see the other, then why are you asking questions about sex?

It’s compassion :slightly_smiling_face:

But you’re still ‘horny’?

Dying to the ‘horny/lust’ at the very moment it arises.

Why not do it to everything and not just the healthy desire of sex?

Can you list out ‘everything’? Because ‘everything’ is substantial to this ‘lust’. This ‘lust’ is the highest/longest thing in this universe.

No list too long. Good night!

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