During this week’s Saturday Kinfonet Dialogue can we look at the topic of “indifference”? And can we look by not only examining what K said about indifference, which is different from the ordinary sense, but by looking at what it means to us, and by further questioning this sense of indifference ? To get started, we’ll read the attached quote from a talk K gave in Bombay in 1962.
K was talking about indifference in a sense other than the dictionary senses. For perspective, here are a couple of relevant senses from the dictionary:
not caring, not concerned, uninterested, apathetic.
having no preference or bias, being impartial
If you have any questions or concerns, please let me know @jmelo .
Looking forward to seeing you Saturday,
Kinfonet Dialogue Co-ordinator
1. Opening comments 2. Reading of the quote 3. 5 minutes of silence 4. Check-in 5. Dialogue 6. Check-out
In the following quote, K uses the word, indifferent, in more than one sense. I’ve pointed this out in brackets for clarification.
A mind that is indifferent, is aware of the shoddiness of our civilization, the shoddiness of our thoughts, the ugly relationships; it is aware of the street, of the beauty of a tree, or of a lovely face, a smile; and it neither denies it nor accepts it, but merely observes - not intellectually, not coldly, but with that warm affectionate indifference. Observation is not detachment, because there is no attachment. It is only when the mind is attached - to your house, to the family, to some job - , that you talk about detachment. But, you know, when you are indifferent, there is a sweetness to it, there is a perfume to it, there is a quality of tremendous energy. This [indifference] may not be the meaning of that word in the dictionary.
One has to be indifferent - to health, to loneliness, to what people say or do not say; indifferent whether you succeed or do not succeed; indifferent to authority. Now, if you observe, you hear somebody is shooting, making a lot of noise with a gun. You can very easily get used to it; probably you have already got used to it, and you turn a deaf ear - that is not indifference [in the sense K is talking about]. Indifference comes into being when you listen to that noise with no resistance, go with that noise, ride on that noise infinitely. Then that noise does not affect you, does not pervert you, does not make you indifferent [in the dictionary sense]. Then you listen to every noise in the world - the noise of your children, of your wife, of the birds, the noise of the chatter the politicians make - , you listen to it completely with indifference and therefore with understanding.
J. Krishnamurti Bombay 6th Public Talk 7th March 1962
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