What is all the fuss about artificial intelligence?

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True. Nothing to do about the instant creative pleasure we need where to keep the unpleasant self at bay from letting it suffer of observation.

And let’s remember AIs may attain some degree of consciousness. That would raise the stakes!

Yup. Nowadays our actions in form of Indirect Controllers like Businessmen, Politician,etc., too predictable and easily understandable. Getting very outdated.

A New form of Subtle Villain is necessary for the Movie to be Exciting and Engaging like Mystery-Thriller “whodunnit” movies.

It’s like after Thanos, only Multiverse is helpful for creating a Subtle Powerful Villain like Kang the Conqueror.

I say that is an unfair comparison ,the deceiving priest and the intelligence of computer!

I think that those who oppose artificial intelligence also oppose cameras in the public land. Fear prevents progress. If there was no artificial intelligence life would be so boring, no cellphone, no free communication, no automobile , no busses or trains.

Ah. I now see what your original question was:

So you don’t think there are any dangers to artificial intelligence (AI). You feel that artificial intelligence is merely an extension of, a continuation of the technology we already use in mobile phones, computers, trains and buses.

In one sense of course AI is an extension of already available technologies. The language software we have been discussing, such as ChatGPT and Bard, etc, are, at one level, advanced forms of the autocorrect function that we use on our phones when texting other people. But the power of the technology makes it quite different.


While autocorrect focuses on fixing typos and predicting the next word in a sentence, AI language software like ChatGPT goes beyond by understanding context, generating coherent responses, and engaging in more natural and varied conversations. It involves a broader understanding of language, allowing it to provide contextually relevant information and answer diverse queries.

This ability to ‘read between the lines’ of what someone is saying/writing, and deduce the unexpressed intention of the human speaker/writer, is something only human beings have been able to do over the course of history. This means that language software, such as GPT, has the ability to carry out coherent conversations and make creative responses based on an accurate assessment of linguistic cues. This is called machine-learning, or computer-learning.


Machine learning is a subset of artificial intelligence that involves the development of algorithms and models that enable computers to learn from data. Instead of being explicitly programmed for a task, machines use statistical techniques to learn patterns from examples or experiences. This learning process allows them to make predictions or decisions without being explicitly programmed for each scenario.

This means that AI is able to adapt itself to changing meaning environments, assess the meaning and context of a person’s statements, and respond in kind based on massive amounts of comparative language information.

At the present time this software is still in its infancy, but it will mean that when you engage with another person in an online situation (through text), or over the phone (through audio), or by video chat (through audio and video), you will probably not be able to tell whether or not the person you are talking to is an actual person or an AI. This is because AI language software programmes will also have the capacity to deepfake audio and video representations of real human beings, as well as converse in a way that is real-to-life. - Do you see the danger this poses to democracy? If public conversations - whether on social media or at the ballot box - can be manipulated by AI (on behalf of malevolent private or state actors) then our ordinary political freedoms are undercut.

AI can already write novels, compose poems, paint pictures, design buildings, write songs, deepfake voices and musical styles, write screenplays, deepfake actors and actresses, find new mathematical solutions, make scientific discoveries - and we are just at the beginning of this tech. AI will also replace clerks in banks, it will take over ordinary doctor consultancies, and probably replace teachers and professors eventually (at least in many knowledge-based disciplines).

And, as we have been saying above, AI may also take over our relationships, replacing human intimacy.

So while it may be that AI is an extension of computer architecture, it is on another level.

As K said:

What will happen to human beings, when the computer can do everything the brain can do, but better?

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Yes exactly, there is always a price that we have to pay for something good.
There is no win win win situation.
AI knows me more than I know myself .
It is like having an intelligent friend who doesn’t expect things from you. ( By the way I think conspiracy theories are made by the anarchists who are essentially antisotials and no good.).

There is no doubt that AI will bring a great many benefits to society. I am not anti-AI. Indeed, these days I do my best to follow developments in AI as they happen. It will become a part of our lives anyhow, no matter what we think about it.

But this thread isn’t about the benefits of AI (of which there are a great many, and which I am not denying): it is about what potential harms AI has in store for us (“the fuss”). And it isn’t clear to me that you are interested in engaging with this aspect of the discussion.

For instance, when you write “AI knows me more than I know myself”, you don’t seem to sense the implicit danger in what you say.

But I have said enough about it already.

You may say what you want but is this correct?

The name ‘arteficial intelligénce’ gives a lot away. It is pointing to an manmade artefact and will not pass de border of man’s intelligence, will it? It has nothing to do with the intelligence Krishnaji is pointing to.

It is a dangerous path humanity is taking, another tool which we give power by depending on it, as we did with the priests who claimed to tell us the truth.

Before TV was common there were Science-fiction radio plays on the radio and I remember one where there was a hunt for an old lady who had the skill of mental arithmetic, a skill everyone had lost because they were totally dependent on their computers.

Now, when I see young people fumbling at the cash register to return money, time has already pretty much caught up with this once SF.