When I started listening to Krishnamurti, I was young and looking for an authority. Now I’m quite a bit older, and still looking for authority! Only now I’m more aware of what I’m doing, more apt to catch myself in the process and question it.
So “the true” is the failure of conditioned response to distort perception?
Speaking the truth means K doesn’t lie like Trump or Putin and so many gurus for money and power.
Speaking the truth means K doesn’t lie like Trump or Putin and so many gurus for money and power.
That’s a very low bar…
All you’re saying is that K wasn’t a crook or a con-man, but it doesn’t mean everything he said was true.
it doesn’t mean everything he said was true.
Words are words. They’re symbols. They point. To find the ‘truth’ about yourself can only be done by yourself. And what is found (or not) you put into your own words.
That’s a very low bar…
You think that truth is something holy. No it is not. Truth can be ugly . You are either false or true. Most of us are false and live in illusions.
To find the ‘truth’ about yourself can only be done by yourself.
Is this true? How would you know unless you’ve done it?
Most of us are false and live in illusions.
“Most of us”? How do you know we aren’t all living in illusions? Are you an exception?
DanMcD:Words are words. They’re symbols. They point. To find the ‘truth’ about yourself can only be done by yourself. And what is found (or not) you put into your own words.
Is this true? How would you know unless you’ve done it?
Why,“done it”? Why not, ‘doing it’?
Most of us”? How do you know we aren’t all living in illusions? Are you an exception?
There is no system to see the truth in the false.
How do you know you’re doing it? Couldn’t it just be happening and you believe you’re doing it?
That IS the case isn’t it? The ‘belief’ / illusion, that there is a ‘do-er’, a ‘changer’, a ‘thinker’, an ‘observer’ apart from ‘what is’?
“What illusion? He put the woman in a box and sawed her in half! And then he put her back together again!..I saw it with my own eyes!”
There is no system to see the truth in the false.
Can I know I’m seeing what is true in the moment, or only afterwards (if at all) when the evidence is irrefutable?
Can I know I’m seeing what is true in the moment, or only afterwards (if at all) when the evidence is irrefutable?
No, you can only see the truth in the false if there is intelligence.
you can only see the truth in the false if there is intelligence.
A big “if”…
Most of us live “as if” certain things are true, which means we’re content to never find out what actually is true.
Finding out means falling through the floor of beliefs we don’t believe we’re standing on.