“I am concerning myself with only one essential thing: to set man free. I desire to free him from all cages, from all fears, and not to found religions, new sects, nor to establish new theories and new philosophies.” – Krishnamurti, dissolution of Star speech
At some point in my relationship with Buddhism it hit me that it is not primarily a system for revealing the nature of reality and truth, rather a methodology to end personal suffering. The Buddha saw himself (fwiu) as a doctor with the goal to heal, not a philosopher with the goal to understand. My way of interacting with Buddhist thought and practice changed profoundly with this understanding.
If Krishnamurti is taken at his word – I am concerning myself with only one essential thing: to set man free – how does this affect our relationship with his teachings?
Ukraine is a real problem albeit related to a fundamental misstep in human consciousness.
K is proposing that the self is illusory. That our very experience has no basis in reality. This problem of self, thinking. bias, etc. fundamentally speaking, is an unreal one. To ‘understand’ this would be to render the problem moot. For him then, freedom and seeing the confounded nature of our impressions for what they are - imagined - are one and the same. Emperor’s new clothes.
I think you are confusing the issues here. If we have some kind of psychological problem with the conflict in Ukraine, this is what needs to be understood.
Say I am an extremely powerful God, and I have a psychological problem with the war in Ukraine - if I stop the war with my magic powers, this does not mean I have understood my problem, nor am I free from its underlying processes.
Nb. Freedom from the conflict in Ukraine, means that I am not confused and suffering because of my ideas about it. Freedom from thought means that I am not confused and suffering (and/or causing confusion and suffering) because of my thoughts.
We arise out of everything. So no, because nothing can be said to exist in isolation.
But the sense of feeling free is a feeling. What is freedom if it is not a concept and a state of mind?
If I say that causes and conditions (poverty, war, barroom brawls, life, the universe etc) should not be ignored - this does not contradict the fact that our psychological problems are psychological
PS - I am 1200 miles from the war in Ukraine.
I am in contact with a friend there, I do what I can. And despite his situation he is actually helping me with some technical problems - which feels wrong (ie. not what “should be”)
What matters is not our relationship with the teachings, but with one’s own. Some are curious about K’s teaching while others want what they believe freedom to be.
If I come to the teachings with an interest in understanding what K was saying, upon gaining that understanding, I have no further use of the teaching. But if I regard the teachings as holy scripture, instructions, the key to freedom, etc., I exchange the slavery that led me to the teachings, for slavery to the teachings.
Are you alluding to some claim that one person’s understanding should set all mankind free?
Because my understanding of arithmetic does not affect humankind - but the understanding of numbers has affected all of existence.