I don’t think we need to wait for crisis to change.
We just are unaware. Unawareness has a cause. Awareness has no cause and is natural.
What is the cause of unawareness? If that cause ends, awareness is naturally there. What is the cause of unawareness? It’s because thought is absorbing. Thinker and it’s absorption. Thinker is basically a narcissist who has fallen in love with the image of it’s own creation and is absorbed in it. We consider words to be real. I call you Russian and that I consider to be real. Why have these words become real? Why has thought become reality and replaced awareness? Is it not possible to meet life in awareness? Thought is considered useful to meet life. Why?
Isn’t the ‘problem’ this: our ‘birthright’ is to ‘blossom’, and we haven’t? We’re stuck in a ‘prison’ that we can’t break out of or worse that we don’t even know that we’re in. We’re not complete, whole, etc? Our ‘suffering’ is the result of being psychologically what we are? Our suffering is telling us that?
I think of it as the Spiderman problem - as uncle Ben said : with great power comes great responsibility. But as a species we are still dealing with the issue of rights and needs. And still slaves to immediate comfort and self pandering
As I see it, the self is the cause of problem, it’s not a problem separate from the self to describe. The self is description, word
What is speaking? Is there anything else that will take responsibility for you? And also is it any better for me to explain what God, silence, or awareness is? What authority do I have to explain the unknown? Isn’t it more realistic to look at what I am actualy thinking and doing?
Well, we’re all violent and aggressive from time to time. This might be in the form of verbal aggression but violence is surely a problem we have with regard to self.
What is meant here by the “condition” of the prison and its “significance”?
Anyone?
(Do we agree, accept that we are in a ‘prison’ in the first place? Or are we just taking his word for it?)
Are you aware of anything in your behaviour or experience that indicates that it is so? Or are we just repeating the guru’s narrative?
The perpetual fears, anxieties. The feeling that something is very wrong, the cruelty, brutality of some. How out of step we are with nature, misplaced almost. The killing…the obsessive fear of dying…
(Some, most, would say it’s just human nature and that ‘you can’t fight city hall’ , “suck it up”, etc and that this K business is just another cult. Especially when it’s ‘organized’.)
You may well be right here. I’ve never really considered this.
That’s the ‘carrot’ but is the brain really ‘asleep’ or is it something else?
Is the ‘condition’ of the prison, that I believe myself to be the prisoner but I’m actually not? As I believe myself to be the observer, thinker, experiencer , etc but actually am not?
Can we re-state the hypothesis so that we don’t confuse it with some ideal state that is arrived at via an accumuation over time?
Yes realising that there is a huge, unbearable problem, is necessary - but does not necessarily lead to freedom from suffering. There also needs to be an understanding that the suffering is me.
Thank you, macdougdoug, for this response; I totally agree with this post of yours.
Me=Suffering?
No Me = No Suffering?
As long as there is a psychological ‘center’ ‘me’ dividing the psyche from the ‘world’, there will be conflict and suffering. As inevitable as when it rains, the streets get wet!
Isn’t the ‘problem’ this: our ‘birthright’ is to ‘blossom’, and we haven’t? We’re stuck in a ‘prison’ that we can’t break out of or worse that we don’t even know that we’re in. We’re not complete, whole, etc? Our ‘suffering’ is the result of being psychologically what we are? Our suffering is telling us that?
Thank you, danmcderm, for this response; you have put it very well and I totally agree with it.
What is speaking? Is there anything else that will take responsibility for you? And also is it any better for me to explain what God, silence, or awareness is? What authority do I have to explain the unknown? Isn’t it more realistic to look at what I am actualy thinking and doing?
The war specialists keep talking in terms of war, in terms of division. They will never ever talk about peace because their mind thinks in terms of division. They will always talk about American vs. Russian. You will never hear them say that all human beings are the same. It’s a bit like that.
The self is unaware and to talk only at that level is an addition or playing with illusion. In order to see illusion as illusion there has to be awareness. So we cannot talk about self without exploring awareness. If we talk about war without exploring peace, it is illusion.
We just are unaware. Unawareness has a cause. Awareness has no cause and is natural.
There is awareness and there is awareness. There is one awareness that is sporadic, temporary, irregular, that can be put to work just by willing it, like becoming aware of something in a particular situation and then going back to being unaware, being in distraction; and there is another awareness that is continuous and eternal, always present, this kind of awareness is one of the gifts of transformation.
But all that thinking has spun some yarns with no apparent base in reality. It sometimes seems like a viral dementia spawned from what K stimulated in others.
Please elaborate. Give an example of one of these yarns because I can’t imagine how someone can turn “the thinker is the thought” into something other than what it says.
That’s the ‘carrot’ but is the brain really ‘asleep’ or is it something else?
Not literally asleep, but too distracted and enervated by constant thought to be aware of what it is doing. But once the brain has a clue as to what it’s doing, its increasing awareness of how it is limiting and distorting awareness has its own momentum.