There is no inward security

By “know” do you mean “experience” : we cannot feel secure (at least not continously)?

What is your point about the brain being housed in a protective environment ?- I don’t get it.

If i may use this metaphore to explain:
We all need a shelter, clothes , food and drink. These are basic needs to stay alive(which alas it is not still available for every human being in our so-called civilized society).
Every human being (if not degraded by different causes f.i
Geneticallly) has by birth a perfect organised body.
That is our birthright, which we all have in common.
But we seem to forget this or perhaps pay not enough attention to it.

But what is your point? Is it about the perceived discrepancy between a situation and our thoughts? eg. I may be sitting in a calm environment, but my brain is worrying about something else ?

My point is that our body is well designed to meet with the outer world in which we live
There is this balance, created by evolution.
The question is: how come that this balance is not felt? What is the distortion?
We have (at least I have) lived life that was totally unbalanced, ignoring what was healthy and so in a way losing touch with the intelligence of the body itself.
Momentarely we do our best to restore this balance (feeling sure that there is one ) in taking more care of oneself.
One has to begin with sthg, no?

No. Beginning with something is what the conditioned brain does, and is why it is fragmented, confused, and constantly escaping and seeking results. And this condition will continue until/unless the brain begins with nothing, i.e., the silence of emptiness.

It seems hard to believe that there is no beginning.
No beginning to meet a new friend, to see a beautiful face of a child, no beginning to begin an inquiry.
Is this then the kind of life we want?

For the conditioned brain, it all began with choosing, and that’s all the conditioned brain can do.

Are you saying that by ‘going along’ with this “trick” thought has pulled:I.e. the thinker is separate from the thinking, the observer is separate from what is being observed, etc the brain has gone along with the idea that it was created apart from everything else, in the image of God? The ‘god’ that thought itself ‘created’? We’re all limited to being tinpot second hand deities because the brain can’t let go of the idea of having ‘to be something’ special?

I am God if awareness is subject to my Commandments.

Apparently it is hard to stay with the subject of inward security.
You bring in the conditioned mind and you seem to know what a conditioned mind is, or at least what it’s capable of doing, which od according to you : choice. So we might ask whether there is security in choice
Obviously there is none, because choice mean that there are different options so how can one be sure that one has chosen the right option.
So, why do we chose then? Easy to say that it is our conditioning. You might say this and you might be convinced of it, but alas still we chose. Why? Does knowing, asserting, stating, saying, believing do the trick?
Or has it nothing, but really nothing to do with what we think about the matter?
Let us for a moment consider this, if you like.

When the brain realises that there is no security in the field of thought it becomes silent with no centre demanding security. So the question of security does not arise. Whether brain is in state of unlimited and secure, do not know.

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We choose,is it not out of fear. When does the question of fear, inword security arise? Is it not when there is a centre active in the fiend of the known.
So when there is no centre the security,insecurity may have no meaning.

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Because inward security or inward permanency is a frozen idea that doesn’t exist.

The problem is that I have been told (over and over again) that there is some permancy, some inward security in me, which is called the “me”, the “I” , the “ego”.
Now you (or K) come along and say : there is no such thing as inward security, permanency, an ego.
I can accept this (like i accepted the things I was told before) or I doubt all this, and that is what I am doing now.
What about you?

Is the ego or the self or the me real or imaginary?
If it is imaginary then it is totally useless . If it is real and felt by the senses what is it’s nature and from where it gets it’s energy.
One has to work it out for oneself which we are not willing to do . Maybe because life is becoming too complicated and we don’t have the energy or time to work these things out.

Unfortunately that is where we are going as humanity. Dictators are being worshiped,  hate and jealousy are dominating human consciousness..

If it is a fact that there is no security in the world, and I take it as a fact that there is no security in the world given the temporality and uncertainty of things in the world together with all the efforts made in the form of insurances and protections against the constantly present uncertainties and their associated risks – if it is a fact, then to participate in worldly affairs is to participate in the uncertainties and insecurities that the world has to offer. Is it wrong to participate in worldly affairs? No, there is no problem in participating in worldly affairs, the problem arises when one relates or identifies oneself with worldly affairs; thus, the distinction between being in the world and being of the world. And to be of the world, to be related to worldly things engenders fear because all that is worldly is temporary, uncertain, variable, and eventually comes to an end, dies. But also, there is the fear of what people might think or say about one, or perhaps even do to one, if one does not participate in worldly affairs with the rest of the people. So, if there is fear of getting personal pride, reputation, health, beliefs, opinions, convictions, habits, ideologies, points of view, etc., etc., etc., hurt by people then there is no inward security – the fear of the outside is being brought to the inside – and it is the absence of this fear that allows the brain the security that it needs to function properly.

Adversity in one’s life can be shattering. One is happy to enjoy life’s pleasures, thrills, entertainments, joys, etc but when adversity strikes there is anger, fear, anxiety, suffering ….one’s ‘philosophies’ fall apart, we yearn for ‘the way things were’. We get depressed. Is this not the case for you Manuel, if I may ask?

If we are indulging ourselves in self-pity , how then are we to see the whole picture, being the whole of mankind.
Are we then not seperating ourselves from the rest of us?
It is obvious that if we are only concerned about ourselves there cannot be compassion of any kind.
So, why are we doing this?

But I am not different than the world. I have created this world through my ambition and greed. That is why anything that I do has no effect on the world unless I change fundamentally and inwardly. Our outward actions spring from our inward poverty and lack of love.