Krishnamurti sometimes spoke about seeing the truth as truth, the false as false, and seeing the truth in the false.
So we might say that while truth is unknown - unknown to thought - it is constantly revealing itself through the actuality of the world (of nature), as well as through the actuality of the psychological present in our lives (which contains much that is false).
Krishnamurti and Bohm sometimes made a distinction between truth, actuality and reality:
- truth being a perception beyond time and thought
- actuality being nature, as well as the facts, the lived psychological ‘what is’, of each moment
- reality being the beliefs, the illusions, the subjective mental constructs that thought has created.
There’s no need for us to hold to this particular usage of the word “reality”, as it becomes confusing to do so the way we often use this word. We also use the word “truth” in a more general way to refer to facts, actualities. Nevertheless, the distinctions between these three different aspects of experience are worth considering and bearing in mind:
- a timeless, unknowable (through thought), non-manifest perception of reality (truth)
- the actual facts of immediate, present moment experience, immediate perception, including nature
- the thought-created world of our own ideas, beliefs, projections, imagination, memory, etc.
So truth and actuality involve present moment perception, present moment awareness (of what is) - whereas thought is always involved in the flow of time.
So what is the present moment?
The present moment - as Krishnamurti often said - consists of the modification of past experience (memory), which continues in its modified form to become tomorrow or the next moment, the future. So the 'now’ contains this whole movement, and whatever is perceived in the present moment: nature, the sunrise and sunset, the actuality of pleasure or suffering, our relationship with other people, etc.
So in the now there is a possibility of contact with ‘what is’ - with what is actually happening (both in the world and in ourselves). Truth and actuality are incapable of being perceived outside the now moment.
So when we discuss notions of truth - of whether there can be an objective truth, or if the truth that you see is different from the truth that I see, etc - all of the above must be taken into consideration. Because when we talk about a truth that you and I see we may be talking about a perception of actuality, or we may be caught in an illusion of our own thinking. (While truth as it is in itself may involve a totally different order of perception in which any notion of ‘you’ as separate from ‘I’ is redundant).
So in all these cases the contact point is what is happening in the actuality of the ‘now’.
As @crina has mentioned on another thread, the senses live in the present, in the now. So when we ask ourselves whether there can be an awareness or perception with all our senses, we are in essence asking ourselves what it mean to live in the ‘now’ moment.
Can we live for a few seconds, for a minute, on the ‘razor’s edge’ of the now moment, with our senses operating without the interference of thought? - This is part of what the question of truth and actuality involves.
What do people think or feel about this?