Thank you, Adeen, for sharing this audio with our dialogue group.
Audio | J. Krishnamurti – Saanen 1971 – Public Discussion 3 –Harmony of the mind, heart and body (youtube.com)
There is a propensity for some K enthusiasts to dissociate thought, emotions and sense of self from the body, when, in fact, without the body, these don’t exist. With K’s style of teaching, it’s a clarifying audio with several opportunities for the experiential.
Dang! I missed that session - and its back to school now (thats dog agility school) so I’ll be missing out on some dialogue for a while.
I liked the idea that the mind, heart and body are like one movement - there is no separation between them - so harmony is probably for the best.
Though when there is harmony in the sense of sitting around all day eating junk food, throwing rocks at my neighbours and believing that these are good things to do - K reckons this doesn’t count as harmony (because it ends in tears I suppose)
Also K talks about the difference between “recognition, analysis and conclusion” & “awareness or obervation (without motive)” - the first being the movement of psychological time and the second being intelligence.
There’s a tiny bit in there where he says that we shouldn’t think of intelligence as “God” or “Higher self” or “Atman” because those are just ideas in our heads - but that he doesn’t mean its the “intellect” either.
Intelligence is seeing unimpeded by fear.
As are thought, emotions and sense of self inseparable from the body, so the body is inseparable from it’s environment. Harmony within the system produces the best results.
That seems to me completely depending on the health, clarity and harmony of the system itself, right?
K’s style of teaching? Does a mind that is constantly flowing in a conversation to the point of not knowing what it just said have a “style of teaching”?
K: Wait. No, no. You are translating it differently. I don’t know what I said just now,