Maybe we will create artificial minds that are awake and intelligent, rather than neurotic like ours? Imagine the insights and advice of a wise spiritual teacher at the click of a button. Could put lotta faux gurus out of business! 
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GPT already puts us to shame with its ability to acknowledge and correct its errors without feeling any reluctance to do so, or gratitude to us for bringing its errors to its attention. Having no feelings, it has no psychological thought to make its thinking incoherent.
Sure, faux gurus put out of business by super-faux-gurus! 
Mirror mirror on the wall,
Who’s the fauxest one of all?
I’m sure you also know some human being who has no problem acknowledging his mistakes to anyone and who also makes you feel ashamed.
Can AI take on the role of a guru, explaining how to overcome the kleshas and move through expanded states of consciousness?
ChatGPT AI can provide information and guidance on various topics, including overcoming kleshas (mental afflictions) and expanding one’s consciousness. However, the role of a guru goes beyond just imparting knowledge or information. A guru is a spiritual teacher who helps individuals in their journey towards self-realization and inner transformation. This involves a deep level of understanding, empathy, and intuition, which may not be possible for an AI system to replicate.
While AI can provide helpful insights and techniques, it may not have the same level of experiential wisdom as a human guru. Also, the process of spiritual growth involves a personal and unique journey that cannot be fully prescribed or guided by an external source, including AI. Thus, while AI can be a useful tool in our spiritual journey, it is unlikely to replace the role of a guru in its entirety.
Do you really need another or a machine to be nothing?
Can another’s or a machine’s words ‘help’ me to be nothing?
No one I know “has no problem acknowledging his mistakes”, but they are at times capable of doing so. GPT, however, literally has no problem acknowledging and correcting its mistakes because it has no self image or emotional attachment to accommodate. It is practical thought without the conflict and confusion of psychological thought.
Not even yourself? …
It’s thought without the genitalia? 
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Of course. I’m as confused as anyone whose thinking is fused with psychological thought.
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Why this division between thinking and psychological thought?
Could you please explain what each one is?
ChatGPT: Krishnamurti made a distinction between “thinking” and “psychological thought” to highlight the fundamental difference between the two.
Thinking refers to the process of using the intellect to analyze, evaluate, and make decisions based on available information. It involves logical reasoning, deduction, and induction, and is necessary for problem-solving, decision-making, and planning. Thinking is essential for practical activities and for navigating the challenges of everyday life.
On the other hand, psychological thought refers to the mental activity of creating mental images, beliefs, and concepts about oneself, others, and the world. It is the activity of the mind that is involved in the formation of the self-image, identity, and the sense of separateness from others. Psychological thought is conditioned by past experiences, cultural and social influences, and personal biases, and is often based on unconscious assumptions and beliefs.
Krishnamurti saw psychological thought as the source of much of human suffering and conflict, as it creates a sense of separation and division between individuals and groups. He believed that by becoming aware of the workings of psychological thought, individuals can free themselves from the limitations of their conditioning and access a deeper level of consciousness that transcends the ego and the conditioning of the past.
In summary, thinking is a necessary and useful mental process, while psychological thought is often based on personal biases and conditioning, and can be a source of conflict and suffering.
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Thanks again @DeNiro, but with all due respect, I didn’t ask the question to ChatGPT or to you. Surely you understand what I mean.
By the way what about my question about the invasive requirements needed to be able to play with that toy you seem to like so much?
ChatGPT: There are a few possible reasons why a phone number might be required when signing up for a service like GPT, but without more context it is difficult to say for certain. Here are some possible explanations:
- Verification: Requiring a phone number can be a way for a service to verify that a user is a real person and not a bot or a fraudulent account. When you sign up for GPT, you may receive a text message with a verification code that you need to enter to confirm that you have access to the phone number you provided.
- Security: Providing a phone number can also add an extra layer of security to your account. For example, if someone tries to log in to your account from an unrecognized device, GPT can send a text message to your phone with a verification code to confirm that it’s really you trying to access your account.
- Communication: A phone number can also be used by GPT to send you notifications or other important information related to your account. For example, you might receive a text message when a training job is complete or when there is an update to the GPT service.
Ultimately, the specific reason why GPT requires a phone number may depend on the service’s policies and practices. If you have concerns about providing your phone number, you may want to review the service’s terms of use and privacy policy, or reach out to their support team for more information.
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GPT continues to assume K was speaking from belief. Why doesn’t it correct itself?
What ends psychological thought?
ChatGPT: Krishnamurti [contended] that the observation and understanding of psychological thought can bring an end to it. He maintained that the mind can be aware of its own activity and observe how it creates psychological thought. This awareness and observation create a space between the mind and its activity, allowing individuals to see their conditioning and thought patterns without judgment or identification.
Krishnamurti argued that the observation of psychological thought leads to a state of psychological freedom, in which the mind is no longer bound by its past conditioning and can access a deeper level of consciousness. This state of freedom is characterized by a sense of wholeness, interconnectedness, and compassion towards oneself and others.
However, Krishnamurti also emphasized that the end of psychological thought is not a state that can be achieved through effort or technique, as it is a natural outcome of self-awareness and insight. He encouraged individuals to observe their own minds without seeking to change or control them, and to cultivate a state of awareness and attention in all aspects of life.
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I see GPT is no longer using the word believe. Gotta keep the humans happy!