Why Was I Born?

One cannot impose on another whatsoever. We see names here which have been chosen by each poster, one must show respect for other people’s options. This is a public forum dealing with matters concerning Krishnamurti. Krishnamurti often used the expression: ‘most respectfully’, one should keep it that way.

But we don’t live that way. If we did, there would be no wars, no conflict anywhere.

So what are we to do? Shall we just have a lot of theoretical discussions? Is that why you are here?

And, if I may ask most respectfully, why do you feel the need to interfere in this? Do you think we cannot work it out together?

I see! It seems that your (supposed) wisdom only serves you to judge others according to your imagination, but for nothing else.

Just click on my avatar in any of my forum posts and you’ll see it. And yours is…?

So you can’t even tell me your name?

I’m sorry to know you live in conflict. There are wars but you don’t have to take part in any war if your heart is at peace. Once you asked most respectufully, I’ll answer that I interfered because, as I said before, this is a public forum dealing with matters concerning Krishnamurti.

So are you so lazy you can’t click on my avatar and see it for yourself?

I did not say that. I said that we don’t show respect for each others’ options. So to impose any rule that we should is to sow the seed of conflict from our own desires for peace.

You have written sixteen words where one would do. Your name. Are you shy about writing it?

Would you mind explaining to me (according to your imagination), why I should be ashamed to write it, when it’s written in my profile from 2020 where you can see it for yourself (if you’re really interested, and it’s not just pretending to look special to those gathered here)?

Just curious! :thinking:

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If I can make a comment here: it’s rather weird that you are being grilled for not repeating the name you have in your public profile - by someone who goes by the name Anon (anonymous), and who hasn’t made any effort to write their own name!

The name in your profile may be false, a pseudonym, I don’t know. I am not grilling anyone. It is just a simple question gone haywire.

So are you telling me that you wouldn’t trust the name on my profile to be my actual name, but you would trust the same name as actual if I wrote it down in a post?

Hmmm, interesting!
BTW, why is a mere label so important to you in relation to our ongoing discussion? :thinking:

But that’s all we are, our labels. Your name may be the only thing that is real about you. The name may endure ten thousand years; the body has but a brief time here.

How can a name be real when it is imputed upon something unreal?

You mean for all those who think that the name is the actual thing?

Seeing as this issue has arisen here, and you have asked @fraggle to write his name, maybe you can briefly clarify something about your own name?

I haven’t been on Kinfonet for some time, so I missed this discussion, but apparently some people believe you to be Paul Dimmock?

I don’t think you are, because Paul Dimmock previously questioned people for using anonymous accounts. You sometimes seem to share something in common (rhetorically) with Paul, but I think you would admit it if you were. There is a former poster called @Maheshji who stopped posting around the same time that you began, so maybe your name is Mahesh?

Perhaps you simply want to remain anonymous? In which case, I don’t understand why you want @fraggle to be more explicit about his own name than you are willing to be about yours?

Look, we said anonymity is humility. That was where we finished it last time. Thinking is our salvation, nothing else - #82 by Anon
We also said that thinking is anonymous, yet thought is not. Thought has all our pride, ambition, fear and greed tied up in it. Therefore thinking together is real humility, if we can do it properly.

And are we here to think together or not?

With the thing called ‘fraggle’ it is simple. I am scared of him.

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This is what I find a bit confusing. You told @fraggle that there is no shame in revealing/writing his name, and yet you refuse to even deny that you are Paul Dimmock!

(For the record, I don’t think you are Paul, but I think it’s odd that you are unwilling to address such a simple cause of misunderstanding on this forum, when you have been told repeatedly that some people think you are a former contributor to this forum, and this is perpetuating misunderstandings. You could say that you are not Paul and still remain one of the remaining 8 billion or so names out there).

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No, I did not. I asked him if he was shy. I don’t know why shyness is being linked with shame. If he is shy, it is the same with me. It has nothing to do with shame.

I won’t quibble with you about that, especially as this is a secondary consideration.

What I don’t understand is, if you really aren’t Paul Dimmock, why can’t you just say - without feeling any pressure to reveal your true name - that you aren’t someone many of us know from the forum? Withholding your name is your own prerogative, but by creating ambiguity around being someone known to the forum, it just perpetuates (imo) misunderstandings unnecessarily.

To repeat: I honestly don’t think you are Paul Dimmock (despite what others have said); but if I’m wrong and you really are Paul, why would you withhold such trivial information?