In some situations trust is a matter of life and death.
Are you referring to the death of the body? As in when mountainclimbing, attached by a rope to each other for safety?
And if you are, the fear is still psychological, what good is wondering about trust once we are on the mountainside?
What is your subjective view/experience of trust in this forum?
The trust Iâve paid most attention to here is the one I described above as an expectation that a certain set of behavioral and moral/ethical guidelines will be followed. Basically I trust someone who I feel is a Mensch, a Yiddish word for a good person: fair, honest, kind, caring, considerate. Which doesnât mean blase or sentimental.
For me the forum is quite trustworthy in this sense of the word. Occasionally I dare to show myself, the ârealâ me warts 'n all, and for the most part the responses are kind and thoughtful. Thereâs a lot I donât share, but I can imagine sharing at least some of that at the proper moment.
The posturing and chest-thumping and better-than-thouness donât usually bother me so much, I usually ignore them and move on. Thatâs a different type of trust, trusting that something is âtrue.â
Ja. The self can be heinously injured by a breach of trust, but I doubt it can be killed/ended.
And if you are, the fear is still psychological, what good is wondering about trust once we are on the mountainside?
If I were climbing a mountain I would do lots of trust/risk-assessing before beginning. But during the climb I would stay extra aware of what I took to be possible danger points. Knowing what to remain aware of might avert (an avertable) disaster!
What is your subjective view/experience of trust in this forum?
As I keep saying : I trust that we are all human, and doing our bestest.
As I keep saying : I trust that we are all human, and doing our bestest.
Which is about as goodest as it gets, right?
That would be a denial of human potential.
Freedom of intelligence, the clarity of love/non-self, are better in that there is absence of fear, conflict and confusion. However, we cannot choose to not be, so we have no basis to judge and condemn.
However, we cannot choose to not be (fearful, conflicted, and confused), so we have no basis to judge and condemn.
A lovely starting point for a trusted circle of fellow explorers.
Because we have to get on - we share the same space, the same forum, the same world.
If this is true, we have to deal with the believers in a way that doesnât stimulate them, doesnât feed their need to preach and teach. We could ignore them, let their gaseous eructations go without comment. Or we could remind them that theyâre demonstrating how easily and how often K-students become radically transformed selfless replications of K himself.
But maybe one can drop oneâs image of them (as being untrustworthy) and meet them in the next moment and see what happens? That would be a kind of unconditional trust, wouldnât it?
It could be, but it could also be finding out for oneself how trustworthy they are.
No obvious Special K in group here so far to my knowledge.
Not yet, anywayâŚjust a few individuals who share the same conceit. Give them timeâŚ
Reading some of opâs posts here and elsewhere one canât help but notice the repeated association between trust and codependency. Frequent appeals to a pack mentality, âthe groupâ, surely canât touch the subtle balance of trust.