The Questioning Mind

As jiddu said we are violent, sir.

I am hungry for meaning and pleasure.

Why are you here?

So why are you here?

I have said it: I want to know who you are. When you tell me you are hungry for meaning and pleasure, it still leaves me cold.

Previously, I used to participate in forum conversation to understand the nature of thought but now it is not the case. I see that there is a kind of pleasure in spiritual conversation.

What drives you to participate in forum discussion? Sir

I have no idea what you mean by spiritual conversation. But if you are here for pleasure, which is what someone else also says, it leaves me very cold. Maybe I misunderstand what you are saying, but it depends what you mean by spiritual conversation and whether or not you are equating it with understanding the nature of thought.

Forget the forum because there is nothing special about it, but I am happy to tell why I like to discuss with other people: other people are me. Thatā€™s my whole feeling about it in a nutshell.

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You come here to find out who we are? Why?

Spiritual terms like meditation, love, suffering, self, attention, change, desire, relationship and other aspects which I might not know until now.

Okay, sir. There is still a lot to investigate, I think.

Would you rather not know?

What would warm you up?

The self is so sad, its dangerous.
It is a hole that can never be filled.

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Sometimes the self is very happy!

Is there a healthy self that can be nurtured?

It is never-ending. Thatā€™s the beauty of this.

Why do you want to warm me up?

I propose a temporal loop where you are opening a christmas present from your grandma over and over again for all eternity (of course, your memory of the last time you opened the package is constantly being wiped :partying_face:)

Usually the only healthy, happy selves are the other people, like the dalaĆÆ lama and kim kardashian

Can the illusion be nurtured? Isnā€™t that the eternal attempt to stave off the sadness?
To put it another way, can the evil of the self-image be made more secure?

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Me! Me! Me! More! More! More!

Whats the healthy version of that? The vegan ascetic version in a cave? Or the Multibillionaire in a brothel? Or the normal guy in the middle wanting to become one of the other guys?

To understand what about my answer makes you cold.

So it is still about you and your understanding. You donā€™t really care whether I am warm or cold. Or am I reading you wrong?

I am not interested in either of us understanding a thing; I have no desire for meaning or pleasure. Right? These things act as barriers between people. And I wonā€™t deliberately create any barriers between us, which is bound to happen if I am seeking answers, understandings or meanings.

That the self is ā€œan illusionā€ is not a given for me, Iā€™m still exploring what this ā€œIā€ thing is.

Can the self be nurtured?

Iā€™d say yes, the self (whether real or illusory) is workable, like clay to a sculptor.