Is it possible or healthy to “have no emotional relationship to anything”?
To decide whether one should or should not have x state of mind, is still to confuse our world view (of separate things that I understand) for actual truth.
Me, other not me things, various concepts and teachings etc… only have meaning within my self-projected environment with regards to utility therein.
To decide how one should be is to set the whole universe in motion for me. Or at least to try to do such a thing.
To have an emotional relationship with “Nothingness” is not really an emotional relationship with nothingness, its a relationship with myself (my idea of nothingness).
The Mystery is all around us and in us. The ‘self’ has inadvertently made it all mundane.
Up early with the birds this morning, who are all singing about it.
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The birds are singing the Mystery. They are the Mystery. So are we! What’s our song?
‘Lean against each other and groan’?
If the ‘self’, the ‘me and the mine’ is unhealthy, then the emotional relationships created by it would also be unhealthy. No?
Yes, but you seem to be saying that a healthy brain would “have no emotional relationship to anything”.
What is an ‘emotional relationship’? If the brain is ‘empty’, still, silent, etc (healthy?) why would it have ‘emotional relationships’?
Do you think emotions are pathological; that a brain aware of (and therefore free) of its conditioning would have no emotions?
The question is what are ‘emotions’? Without the self, without conditioning, what ‘feelings’ are we talking about? K said that his secret was that he didn’t mind what happens…what does that mean in relation to ‘emotions’, feelings; not minding what happens? Shri Anirvan said “emotions are misplaced sensations “. What might that mean? When the ‘me and mine’ isn’t present, would psychological ‘emotions’ also be absent?
And if ‘emotion’ occurs to a still, silent brain, a kind of ‘disturbance’, like a pebble dropped into a quiet pond, would the ‘ripples’ settle quickly when no longer ‘roiled’ by thought?
If we think of the quiet, sensitive brain as a pond, it would respond to environmental events with ripples that would subside or increase in accord with what is actually occurring. If we call these ripples “emotions”, they are natural, choiceless occurrences - not conditioned reactions that are thought induced.
If we think of the conditioned brain as a pond, it is constantly bubbling and roiling from the effect of constant thinking that sustains beliefs, fears, desires, etc., and reacts to outward events conditionally.
The quiet, sensitive brain is choicelessly aware of and appropriately responsive to its environment, whereas the preoccupied, confused brain reacts to it. Ripples of emotion can be healthy, appropriate response, or pathological reaction. Thought and emotion are inseparable. If thought is incoherent, conflicted, confused, so is emotion.
Every thought is a ripple, but if rippling is constant and continuous, the pond is too caught up in its own activity to be choicelessly aware of its environment. This is the human condition.
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With the pond image, I had in mind what K had said about how he answers questions and how the response ‘fits’the question (the size of the splash and ripples from the stone?).
They sing at dawn and they sing at dusk…never seem to have a ‘bad’’ day.
Amazing!! Had to read thrice to get to the depth of what you said. Finally, not sure whether I am there or not.
What I see that for a conditioned mind, it is extremely difficult to break the circle of influences of it’s own conditioning. To get to the choiceless awarness, healing of (wounded or distrubed or split or burdened or conditioned)awarness must take place. To escape from the traps of conditioned awareness is the challenge that each one of us face. Once one is seriously aware of conditioned state of awareness, the negation of which must take place naturally without disruptions.
It’s struggle to be in the status of choiceless awareness, as human beings are caught in conditioned awareness.
Please feel free clear the clutter if any.
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But you do know, I hope, that appearances can be deceiving.
A cat can take his life away that is one of the reasons why he is so alert while singing.
Also the Mystery!
There has to be an understanding ,an insight, that puts an end to mourning for what we’ve lost and for what we haven’t achieved.
La accion de los sentidos ocurre en el ahora.
La actividad del pensamiento,en el tiempo.
El pensamiento es tiempo.
El ahora es atrapado por el pensamiento,
y así,desaparece
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Con solo ponerle nombre a lo percibido,lo percibido,(visto,oído etc) desaparece .
Me gusta,no me gusta, lo deseo.no lo deseo etc
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